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"Lacklustre" response from Minister for Nature is cause for concern - Campaign Update

19/12/2024

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* The UK Minister for Nature has issued "a lacklustre response" to campaigners' concerns over wildlife licences.
* Hopes for licence reform are overshadowed by apparent lack of empathy and engagement.


Hi folks,
As many of you will know, we have been awaiting a response from the government's Minister for Nature, Mary Creagh, after I contacted her on behalf of the 400,000 good folks who have signed our petition.
I put to her the notion that the current wildlife lethal control licences need a complete overhaul and that many of these licences are, as we know, spurious and poorly thought through - this being the essence of our campaign and something we have pointed out time and again.


Initially there was no reply at all from the Minister, but - after I called out this silence - I was promised a formal response to our concerns, and I was told that details of some specific points would be addressed and forwarded to "policy officials in Defra and Natural England". This sounded impressive but actually we are already in contact with said "officials" and have been for a number of years.

'Dull' response from Minister
I thought it would be good to offer the Minister a chance to reassure us that our legitimate concerns are heard and might be addressed.
I hoped that would be the case, but the cynical side of me suspected that we might get a pretty dull standard response. And folks, I'm afraid that's what we have received.

Anyway, I said I'd share the Minister's response with you all, so here goes.

Initially it sounded promising:
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The fact that your petition has received over 400,000 signatures," said the Minister, "is a clear illustration of the level of public interest in our national wildlife and the associated concerns with how wildlife licensing is implemented. I apologise for the delay in getting back to you".
So, at least there was some recognition of the strength of our campaign.
But then her lengthy letter descended into a rather lacklustre explanation of wildlife licensing, the sort of thing we used to receive at the start of our campaign - before we were taken seriously.


The Minister began by telling us what we already know, "Natural England (NE) consider licence applications on a case-by-case basis and take into account any impacts on the conservation status of a species when deciding whether to issue a licence. NE operates within the legislative framework to protect species that is set by government and considers licence applications which can be deemed legitimate subject to a number of statutory tests and government policy criteria...."

(Yeah, we know.... this is just 'copy and paste' stuff.)

She continued, "....These include that the cumulative effects of licences should not be detrimental to the conservation status of native wild bird populations or protected species."
But that's really our point isn't it? - some of the species directly affected by the licences are already very much at risk and further endangered by the government issued licences that permit their destruction. It's pretty obvious that killing more of them will be 'detrimental' to their conservation status.


Minister not concerned over trade in threatened birds' eggs
The Minister went on to address just one of the specific concerns that I raised with her, the contentious issue of harvesting Black-headed gull eggs for human consumption, a distasteful practice that is approved under licences issued by Natural England. Our campaign has helped to ensure the withdrawal of most of the licences that permit this outdated trade to prosper, though two licences still remain in place.
I had hoped the Minister would at least support the withdrawal of these last two remaining licences.
I was wrong.
Black-headed gulls are a species suffering significant population decline in the UK, they are on the amber list of conservation concern. 

But the Minister seems to imply that this concern is misplaced, telling me that "At the national scale, the cumulative effects of black headed gull egg-collecting are considered very small in relation to the national population of the species and the eggs they produce. Furthermore, NE colleagues make site visits to understand local populations where appropriate. As a result, in some areas NE continues to consider licensing at the current scale to be sustainable."
Point of interest: when I raised this matter with Natural England a few years ago, there was a similar situation with active licences in place at that time to harvest gull eggs in Hampshire.
However, shortly after I queried the justification for these licences, the practice of egg collecting in that area was rather suddenly considered 'unsustainable' and those licences were withdrawn....
The Minister perhaps underestimates our understanding of the matter.


"Open to consider further changes"
I asked the Minister if the new Labour government would consider an overhaul of the current licensing system (something which I think we can all agree is long overdue), and there was a glimmer of light in her reply, "We are currently considering wild take licensing, and we are open to consider further changes to NE's licensing processes." Exactly what is meant in this context by the term 'wild take' licences is unclear to me, though it might refer to the taking of birds of prey from the wild for use in falconry and aviculture. In fact, back in 2022, Natural England called for evidence ahead of a review for these wild take licences, so if we assume this is what is referred to in the Minister's reply then it's really not news.

Minister's lack of empathy with nature?
I do wonder just how much empathy with nature our Minister for Nature actually has, but the Minister sought to reassure us by telling us that "This government is committed to improving biodiversity and halting the decline in species abundance by 2030 and reversing it by 2042."

(Well. Nice words). 


The Minister explained how they would achieve this, "To meet these biodiversity targets we need to take action on three fronts: creating wildlife-rich habitats, reducing pressures on biodiversity, and taking targeted action for species."

(Oh dear, it's not really rocket-science level stuff is it...)

'Rapid review' of 'Environmental Impact Plan'
The Minister also told me that Defra has already launched a rapid review of the Environmental Improvement Plan (EIP) to ensure that policies are in place to deliver on the Secretary of State's priority to recover nature. The 'rapid review' was announced in July. They will publish a summary of findings in early 2025. 


Riding roughshod over our countryside
In response to this 'rapid review', the Office for Environmental Protection offered the government the following advice: "The Government has been clear about its ambitions for house building and clean energy. As it develops its plans for such large scale initiatives, and as it reviews the EIP, it must take the opportunity to align them to nature, rather than work against it, to enhance nature rather than further deplete it."
Personally, I feel that this good advice from the OEP might be difficult for the current government to follow, given the government's apparent intention to ride roughshod over our countryside building houses, wind turbines, pylons and solar farms, amid weakened local planning restrictions - surely this is at odds with their claim to be 'committed' to "creating wildlife-rich habitats" and "reducing pressures on biodiversity"?
But then I'm relying on common sense, and I wonder how many politicians are in possession of this faculty.

On a final note that holds at least a little hope, the Minister told me "I want to assure you that we will continue to review other areas of policy that may be hindering nature's recovery", adding, "I welcome further engagement on specific wildlife licensing issues for which there is genuine public concern." 
Mind you, I had already cited some other specific licensing issues in a separate communication with the Minister's office, including the hunting of red-listed songbirds permitted by falconry licences and the culling of Cormorants - though it seems that these 'specific issues' escaped her attention....

So folks, I'm not terribly impressed, are you? I think we deserved better.
I definitely get more engagement working directly with Natural England (and NatureScot) to be honest, but I suppose it's good to have channels of communication open with any authority who has influence, including the Minister for Nature.

I'll reiterate something I said in my last blog post: protecting nature in the UK relies on individual citizens - and not government.


Wishing you all a great Christmas and a Happy New Year.
​And sincere thanks for all your support.

The campaign continues....

Best,
Jase
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26 Comments
Thomas Cochrane
22/12/2024 10:46:58 am

Please pay attention to this message and give aid to mother nature.

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Peter Collier
22/12/2024 02:32:38 pm

Very interesting write up, can you let me know when the next select committee is meeting and I will do my best to attend in person and try and talk to the Minister concerned.
Have a nice Christmas and a interesting new year.
Regards.

Peter Collier
A 88 year old pensioner

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Judith Kelman
22/12/2024 03:36:43 pm

I don't have any faith in any government ministers at present. Starmer has made sure we have no choice and no voice for our concerns let alone that of mother nature.
We just have to keep fighting and keep raising our own voices or all will be lost.
Thank you for your report.

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Veronica Foley link
23/12/2024 12:21:14 pm

It is really disappointing and unacceptable that the Minister for Nature, Mary Creagh, doesn’t seem at all interested/concerned about our very precious birdlife. Something has to be done as soon as possible to prevent the loss of more birds.

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Julia Lowe
23/12/2024 07:59:40 pm

Total whitewash in my opinion, I emailed this minister and got no reply. With this governments plans to ride roughshod over planning restrictions on the countryside and nature, I really despair

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Michael Deaville
23/12/2024 09:50:33 pm

Depressingly predictable response from another spineless and uncaring career politician (they are all cut from the same cloth) by 2030 they will be out of office and 2042 is a long way ahead , so breathing room to do nothing and take the money!!

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Connie Mollison
22/12/2024 11:03:46 am

At present I am residing in the Highlands of Scotland. Although I myself have an organic wildlife friendly garden, over the past 6 years I have fewer & fewer wildlife species in my garden. This is due to the fact that several of the local estates seem only to be interested in shooting parties which of course can earn them over £1K per person per day. As a result of this, other wildlife is indiscriminately slaughtered. If this scenario is repeated throughout the rest of Britain it is no wonder that our wildlife is disappearing.
Another factor is that there is indiscriminate widespread use of banned pesticides. This appears to have greatly increased since Brexit.

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Roger Fox
22/12/2024 11:16:42 am

I have written to my new Labour MP many times regarding a complete ban on hunting and stopping the badger cull. I do eventually receive her replies which are generally sympathetic but with no commitment to implement these bans. When in opposition Labour said they will ban trail hunting and stop the badger cull which they deemed ineffective. I am a member of the Labour Party I will consider my position if the bans are not implemented within a year of them taking power.

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Jenny link
22/12/2024 11:18:13 am

Thanks for all your efforts and the info you have gathered and presented to the minister, I agree 100% that the response is disappointing and all very generalised, in my opinion it's not a proper answer at all! It's a fob off!

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Simon Tucker
22/12/2024 11:27:39 am

Unfortunately, as evidenced by the budget and Starmer's rhetoric: none of our political parties give a stuff about nature. For as long as the political mantra is about economic growth, nature doesn't stand a chance.

It is very simple: Capitalism has no space for conservation unless it can be exploited to make money, and all of our political parties now are free market Capitalists. As Thatcher said when asked her greatest achievement she replied "Tony Blair", i.e. the destruction of the Labour Party as a genuine alternative to free market Capitalism. The EU is no better.

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Gail Hopkins
22/12/2024 11:28:28 am

Sorry to hear that, after all your efforts and the clear support the campaign has, the Minister has managed to reply but not engage.
I thought the collecting of wild birds' eggs was illegal?

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Barrie Sharrock
22/12/2024 11:49:17 am

Sadly, comments and beliefs of politicians are not worth the paper they are written on, I am exceedingly suspicious of what might be driving the bad thoughts and ideas. Plain stupidity when they are in power or £££££££££££££££££££?

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Fiona Turner
22/12/2024 11:59:19 am

I used to live on the outskirts of the city of Southampton, saw all sorts of wildlife and various bird species daily.i haven’t moved, but over the last decade, thousands of homes have been built, expanding the city limits, and now all the wildlife has gone and the only birds I see are pigeons. Sadly, under this new government, it looks like things are going to get much worse for all things furred and feathered! The future is looking grim and the lacklustre response from this MP doesn’t give any spark of hope.

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Tom Clark
22/12/2024 12:07:00 pm

My family and I are appalled by the absolutely atrocious conduct of the Labour government which the United Kingdom is having to suffer at the moment, they clearly have no idea of what they are doing and this whitewash response only further envinces my belief in their incompetence. The human race has an unparalleled ability to destroy all life around us, we really cannot afford to continue to bludgeon wildlife out of existence - and concrete over everything because ultimately it will kill humanity, of that I am certain and those who put money in front of everything else should be ashamed of themselves. Humanity depends on biodiversity. When will they wake up... meanwhile everyone suffers.

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William paul Hodgkinson-Holmes
22/12/2024 12:27:08 pm

Total lack of caring for our wildlife and the way this government is going I cannot see them lasting to long hopefully and they are full of there own importance and on the gravy train.

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Fiona Halliwell
22/12/2024 01:22:15 pm

Never mind all the net zero crap & climate change nonsense, the Government should be concentrating on what little wildlife we have left. Selfish, ignorant imbeciles the lot of them.

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John Welch
22/12/2024 02:20:26 pm

As you suggest, the government seems to have no idea of what the protection of nature looks like in practice. With their massive (and largely unnecessary) plans for building houses on newly renamed 'grey belt' land going hand-in-hand with making resisting planning proposals more difficult not just for interested individuals or groups but also for local councils - a move they characterise as anti-nimbyism - Nimby being a catch-all pejorative for anyone who happens to care about a place sufficiently to make a fuss - it looks increasingly as if all government statements which appear to be supportive of the environment are just so much green-wash.

The way governments treat the non-built environment you would hardly imagine that there is a crisis: a devastating decline in wildlife (flora and fauna) in therms of both absolute numbers and biodiversity, since the 1970s and one-in-six species facing extinction (in the UK). Nor that the main drivers of this - intensive agricultural and fishing practices and building on green field sites - are things the government could address. So, either they don't understand the problem or their role in addressing it, or doing so is not part of their agenda (in which case they will remain part of the problem not the solution).

Best wishes for the festive season and for your continuing efforts in 2025, John

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William Thompson
22/12/2024 02:45:00 pm

I wonder if this person ever showed any genuine interest in wildlife, nature and ecology. She appears to have little compassion for the countryside and its various life forms.. Should she ever have been considered for this post?

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Patricia Allsopp link
22/12/2024 03:12:32 pm

I have to congratulate you Jase, I don't know where you get the patience to deal with such people. To say I am despondent is an understatement regarding the animal kingdom and the country as a whole. To conserve and protect nature is as far as I can see a no brainer. as for humans consuming all and sundry at a rate of knots, this just doesn't bare thinking about. I am thankful for people like you who have fought endlessly, at last someone prepared to hold Authority's feet to the fire. Hoping you can relax enough to enjoy the Christmas holiday.

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Peter Sherliker
22/12/2024 03:26:35 pm

Exactly what you would expect from a lacklustre Government. Without exception they are a bunch of unqualified amateurs with no idea what the real priorities are.

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Nikki
22/12/2024 04:09:37 pm

Honestly they just give out position for the free bonuses. Not a single minister in charge of animals, wildlife, nature or welfare actually does anything constructive. Literally no point in having them.

Also look in to voting history - many of them are pro hunt and against welfare reform as I found out when looking into who to contact for support on wildlife matters!

The response is pathetic to be honest. Clearly couldn't careless. There is zero reason to be collecting endangered eggs for consumption. But we all know it's the super rich that eat them, and it's all about keeping the super rich happy and nothing about actual running or protecting the UK properly.

Ive noticed you never get anything more than a copy and paste response, nothing even gets read by the minsters. At best the subject matter is mentioned and then told which stock response admin should send out. They have zero interest and absolutely not going to do anything about it unless it directly impacts themselves.

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james Albaya
22/12/2024 05:38:26 pm

Thank you for your hard work to protect our nature Jason -its going to be a slog because as you postulate Politicians are sooo disconnected to Nature it means nothing to them - and is seen as an expendable backdrop for money making or development into somethinmg they do value like box housing -we have to make it it home by showing them the benefits of Nature and consequences of destroying it but its hard to reach people who have no interest no love for and no desire to change Maybe we need to buy some politicians with our own" donations" as its all they understand - sad but true

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Fi
22/12/2024 07:10:22 pm

Bravo Jase. May you spread your wings this coming year !

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Vernon Taylor
23/12/2024 04:42:06 am

The Minister comes across as either an uninterested "Townie" or perhaps one of those hunting types that just likes to blast her victim of choice and everything not in that category is just a damned nuisance.

It is a pipe dream that areas rich in biodiversity is some sort of magic bullet providing a panacea to Britain's wildlife ills. While these wild areas are important, that they are isolated from each other without being interconnected by migration trails will serve to concentrate genetic defects so be self-defeating in the longer term.
Britain lost over 50,000 miles of migration trails and habitat between 1946 and 1963, in the shape of healthy hedgerow, drainage ditches, field margins, shade trees, dew ponds, isolated farm buildings and even worse news is most of Britain's remaining hedgerow is in very poor condition - cutting a hedge by machine more than one or two seasons will ruin it...

The amenity to wildlife offered by 50,000 miles of hedgerow, etc. cannot be replaced by what government(s) have planned and neither will the efforts of individuals and then there is the subject of the overuse of chemical farming that must bear a large share of the blame for Britain's declining biodiversity...

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Ernest Randall
23/12/2024 01:36:30 pm

The headlong rush by the eco zealot Mr Millipede will result in many more acres of security fenced 'Nature off Limits' solar panels, BUT he will be able to claim the areas as rewilded habitats for birds in order the negate anyone bleating about losses into wind turbine blades.
Keep up the good work, thankyou

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Robert Bromley
27/12/2024 04:22:39 pm

I agree that the response is lacklustre. Unfortunately I don't think we can expect anything better from a government that appears to have decided it will be business as usual in tis parliament.

Thanks for all you do and best wishes for the new year.

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